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梅沢富美男「割り勘なんておかしい、男が全額払え」

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1: 2018/03/30(金) 05:23:39.74 ID:sHTtS0t10
梅沢富美男が若者の恋愛観を厳しく非難「草食男子は男にあらず」

29日放送の「BSコンシェルジュ」(NHK総合)で梅沢富美男が、「草食男子」を厳しく非難するような持論を展開した。

番組では「大胆不敵!梅沢の流儀」と題し、ゲストの梅沢が現代の若者の生き方に物申した。

梅沢はまず「どの時代もそう」「私たちも若いころは先輩から『今の若いやつらは』って言われた」と前置きをしたうえで「(昔の若者は)今の子たちとは、ちょっと違ったかな」と指摘。

そして「草食男子は男にあらず!」というテーマをかかげ、「『女の子と恋愛ができない』なんて男が多いらしいね」「女の子に声をかけられないとか、付き合いがうまくいかないって男性が多いと思う」と、
今どきの男性に対する印象を語った。

さらに梅沢は、昨今の若者がデートした際に、割り勘会計をする傾向にあることを指摘し「男はやっぱりデートしたら(全額)自分で金を払わなきゃ!」と力説する。

続けて「彼女と一緒にお食事に行ったりデートをしたり、それを頑張ろうとする、そこにパワーが生まれるんですよ!働くってとこに!」「それを割り勘にするからおかしくなるんだよ」と持論を展開した。

その後も梅沢は、デートの動機について「デートしようってのは、下心が多少あるのよ男ってのは」と説明を続ける。デート中、女性と手をつないでみたい、帰り際にキスをしてみたい、といった
“下心”の具体例をあげた後、「下心は当然ありますよ。あるんだったら銭払えつってんの!」と声を荒らげて訴えていた。
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2: 2018/03/30(金) 05:23:55.91 ID:sHTtS0t10
こいつに限らずたまにこういう事言う男がいるけど
ドMなの?
なんで自分から女のATMになりたがるの?
頭が悪いの?
40: 2018/03/30(金) 05:31:52.16 ID:6JTmpbZY0
>>2
逆だぞ、女を経済的に依存させてモノ・ペットにしようとするマッチョ主義者や
フェミの敵や
47: 2018/03/30(金) 05:33:19.43 ID:YrXr/lu10
>>40
はぇ~なるほどなあ
60: 2018/03/30(金) 05:37:51.59 ID:lRQJVxzyd
>>40
その割にこういう発言ってあんまりフェミは叩かんような
6: 2018/03/30(金) 05:24:33.70 ID:F0M1LvBy0
8: 2018/03/30(金) 05:24:54.36 ID:nHZn50x60
てめえこの野郎
9: 2018/03/30(金) 05:25:21.57 ID:NgwXt8650
女は男よりほとんどの事は下手だから
守ってやらないといかん
社会進出とかしなくてええわ
子供産んで育てれば
62: 2018/03/30(金) 05:38:39.12 ID:1fkt2VJSd
>>9
ほんまこれ、中堅の人事大体女で腹立つわ
11: 2018/03/30(金) 05:25:25.39 ID:Ua+nuuqg0
すべてお見通しか…敵わないよ富美男には
13: 2018/03/30(金) 05:26:10.68 ID:9vz8j0Kk0
富美男は女の子だからな
15: 2018/03/30(金) 05:26:53.00 ID:IeheRqvF0
こいつがいうと説得力あるな
16: 2018/03/30(金) 05:26:59.59 ID:NF1gLPg6d
つまり男と男なら実質割り勘やん?
18: 2018/03/30(金) 05:27:21.61 ID:ZANPdrZt0
彼女とか狙ってる異性ならわかるけど、ただの女友達にも奢る必要ってあるんか
30: 2018/03/30(金) 05:30:03.82 ID:fTuneMjSa
>>18
逆ちゃうか
彼女ほど頻繁に会うようなやつに全奢りなんかしてたら金持たんわ
たまにしか会わない女友達とかなら奢れるけど
37: 2018/03/30(金) 05:31:29.13 ID:ZANPdrZt0
>>30
それも人による様な
22: 2018/03/30(金) 05:27:46.56 ID:F5ML+bJT0
時代的に見て男と言うより稼ぎが多い方が払うべきじゃないか
23: 2018/03/30(金) 05:28:07.77 ID:zDUBhUyZ0
ワイが奢れる限界は松屋までや
大戸屋とかになると一人分払って逃げる
24: 2018/03/30(金) 05:28:23.91 ID:dR9AaCRS0
てめぇこの野郎!
こんなにも一杯食いやがって
サイフの中スカスカじゃねぇか…!
25: 2018/03/30(金) 05:28:49.99 ID:NGpv8azT0
女はこういう意見を批判してこそ男女平等なんやがな
26: 2018/03/30(金) 05:28:54.97 ID:gNHBSKRQ0
ずっと奢るとか実質不可能だし
29: 2018/03/30(金) 05:29:46.40 ID:YrXr/lu10
食後からが俺とお前の本当の夢芝居だ
31: 2018/03/30(金) 05:30:11.27 ID:39lEvtgt0
叶わないな…富美男には
32: 2018/03/30(金) 05:30:19.60 ID:bhXv0MqGa
男らしさを見せて男を誘惑させてるんやな
34: 2018/03/30(金) 05:31:10.69 ID:QrhzZden0
バブル真っ只中で青春した世代か?
36: 2018/03/30(金) 05:31:25.96 ID:7UdAenkp0
自分は女形だからこう言っておごってもらってるんやぞ
38: 2018/03/30(金) 05:31:32.85 ID:b32hOPYS0
まあ自分から誘ったなら払ったほうがええんちゃうぐらいには思う
ただ梅沢は参考にしたくない
41: 2018/03/30(金) 05:32:10.65 ID:YrXr/lu10
まー今どきみんな生活カツカツやで
45: 2018/03/30(金) 05:32:58.45 ID:7FV5E3sY0
払いたがる女にも下心があるんだバカ野郎…
46: 2018/03/30(金) 05:33:07.89 ID:O4uC39LH0
男女平等を叫ぶ時代なのになぜ男が払うのかと
昔は女は収入少ないし男が払うのは当たり前だろうよ
でも今は平等なんだから
98: 2018/03/30(金) 05:56:59.80 ID:8euPNbipp
奢る男がいるとそうしないとあかん風潮になるやん
現に今そうやろ
65: 2018/03/30(金) 05:42:51.06 ID:MnLsZna60
好きな女なら制止してでも自分で全額出すかもしれんけど女友達とのメシは普通に半分出してくれるな
68: 2018/03/30(金) 05:44:40.81 ID:j4aZxnKD0
対等な関係なら金もってる方が出したらええやん
親戚が看護師やけど旦那は金持ってないから家建てるのも親戚の金やったで
71: 2018/03/30(金) 05:45:04.61 ID:HpuqHas3d
金が無いねん
すまんな
72: 2018/03/30(金) 05:45:17.95 ID:ZKcnM3d50
男女平等で結婚率下がるのはほんまありがたいわ
ワイが独身の理由どんどんつくってくれや
75: 2018/03/30(金) 05:46:10.38 ID:aZz2PS2d0
割り勘なんて言われたことないで
76: 2018/03/30(金) 05:46:29.10 ID:1oKnTqlG0
夢芝居がミヤネ屋でこれをブチ切れながら言ってる姿が目に浮かぶ
77: 2018/03/30(金) 05:46:38.58 ID:lsWw2ixa0
やっぱり富美男には敵わないな
78: 2018/03/30(金) 05:48:14.74 ID:OTZqYslmM
富美男ならいいよ
80: 2018/03/30(金) 05:48:22.21 ID:8f6Qrlkj0
富美男が言うなら俺もそうしよう
84: 2018/03/30(金) 05:50:19.80 ID:6PJYzXmsd
お前らほんとに富美男のこと好きだなwww
悪いけど富美男は渡さないよ
86: 2018/03/30(金) 05:52:36.44 ID:XNhB0BUA0
この非難もこれも夢芝居芸の1つやから・・・
88: 2018/03/30(金) 05:52:58.15 ID:qjsmzp+0a
こいついつもチロチロしてんな
96: 2018/03/30(金) 05:56:38.61 ID:rujVkRHw0
バラ色ダンディでも浮気記事で夢芝居使われてるし既に汚されてるんだよなぁ…
97: 2018/03/30(金) 05:56:57.26 ID:8f6Qrlkj0
なんやこの老害…
ほー浜田にイジられるとまぁまぁおもろいやんけ…
あかんイジられてる梅沢富美男めっちゃおもろい…
ゆゆゆゆ夢芝居!?!?!ファーーーw
富美男には敵わないな
99: 2018/03/30(金) 05:57:20.07 ID:sHTtS0t10
昭和が男尊女卑って言うけど、どの辺が男尊女卑なの?
凄まじく女尊男卑&男達がドエムじゃない?

だって自ら
「俺の金は女の物 女の金も女の物」
「俺の甲斐性と俺の価値はいかに女に金を払って女を贅沢させるかにある」
って言ってるし、これってすさまじいドエムじゃん

100: 2018/03/30(金) 05:57:22.94 ID:UWi2L6sm0
この手の芸能人の勘違いご意見番多すぎ
メディアもこんな連中の発言拡散するなよ
102: 2018/03/30(金) 05:58:10.87 ID:+w1LT+8w0
そりゃ昔は男女の収入格差がでかかったから…
103: 2018/03/30(金) 05:58:37.92 ID:CnHcmMN/0
女の意見定期
104: 2018/03/30(金) 05:58:39.16 ID:Hfh9dOxW0
でもホテル代は男が全だしだから飯くらい割り勘にしろよ
105: 2018/03/30(金) 05:58:49.26 ID:ykjFI2wJ0
結局金持ったおっさんと富美男がくっ付いてwin-winやんけ
107: 2018/03/30(金) 05:59:28.01 ID:BhDNSceJ0
当然だバカ野郎…ここからが本当の夢芝居だ
108: 2018/03/30(金) 06:00:09.99 ID:LQmcnedc0
とかいって自分は女形に成りすまして逃げそう

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